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has to be prefaced with this little psa

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at any time and i won't be able to tell

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you guys about it

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since you've heard from me here on this

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starve the things that gotta go and we

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will reach the promised land

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in the 1930s president franklin delano

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roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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fireside

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chats his aim was to reassure the common

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man that our society would recover from

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its troubled times

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well we're far from 1930 and i deal with

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a different kind of fire

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for a new era of worldly frustration we

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offer a fresh conversation

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i'm greg carlwood and these are the

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well this is the way higher side

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chatters from sunny san diego i'm greg

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karl wood and if the events of 2020

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showed us anything

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it's just how quickly things can change

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and just how vulnerable and

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unsustainable

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our system really is toilet paper panics

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supply chain disruptions mask and

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temperature check compliance just to get

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and at least for me the closure of our

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best resource the local farmers market

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we should be thankful it wasn't worse

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but let it be a wake-up call that we

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won't catch ourselves being so system

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dependent in the future

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because the way the big machine has

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trained us to live is for its benefit

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not ours it pollutes the air water and

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land and exchanges nutrient dense

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crops and chemical based slab creations

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stored in plastic and aluminum

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it's time that many of us stop suckling

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at the teat of the very industrialized

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culture we like to criticize

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take the personal responsibility up a

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notch and graduate from consumer to

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with a little foresight and direct

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action we can confidently see that

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walmart craft and nestle need us

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a lot more than we need them we have

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seen the problems for years but many of

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us have stopped just short of stepping

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up when it comes to

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creating the solutions which is why jim

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gale of food forest abundance does what

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he does

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and is spending some time with us today

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he's an expert in permaculture design

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food forests and edible landscapes who

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has been helping people take back the

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food production power in their lives for

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his company will draw out the blueprints

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for how to use your space for maximum

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efficiency

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teach you what you need to know through

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his online course or actually come do

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the installation work required to get

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you up and running

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it's a powerful contribution to helping

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us build the new better world as the old

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one falls down around us and i'm psyched

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to talk to him today

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the passionate permaculture preacher

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food forest teacher and a thorn in the

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the nature boy himself jim gale welcome

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to the higher side

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well thank you greg for the introduction

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and it's a pleasure to be with you let's

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inspire some people to grow food

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amen man yes i am very grateful to have

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you here

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i learned about your work from your

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segment with dell big tree on the high

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wire recently

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and was really impressed with your

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passion and knowledge when it comes to

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using whatever space we have to take

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back a little control

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and not just raised beds with a few

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you really use a deep understanding of

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nature to get the most out of a space

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food producing plants that have a

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symbiotic relationship with each other

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and it's a beautiful thing to get us

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tell us a bit about your story and that

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process of transitioning away from

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just worrying and obsessing over the

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problems in society

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to finding a way to offer people

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solutions because i think that's what a

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darn right we are a lot of people in the

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world are so focused on the problem

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that they're miserable and that is

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the sia it's to keep humanity

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and faith is uncontrollable courage

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is uncontrollable so how do we get there

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back in the 70s he said if you want to

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in a document called silent weapons for

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of the world of course starting with the

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down to the bell me salute which is i

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pledge allegiance

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through the control over the of course

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thank gosh you're on the air and many

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in the united states and when we use

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that one resource wisely we completely

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their pillars of control and i'll get a

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how we do that here in a bit but you

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asked me basically how i got to this

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so i uh had a mortgage company did about

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ride it was good timing

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in fact that showed the big short have

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i had always been in this idea after i

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all of these people that were teaching

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education that you don't find in the

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goals and i started visualizing my

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or the catalyst for everything to come

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from that and if i could inspire

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i started a foundation called the wisdom

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my goal was to get all of these tools

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of emotional intelligence which is what

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they were so monolithic and lethargic

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their structures were basically i did

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so i ended up finding costa rica

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and i've always been a nature lover

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nature boy growing up

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when i drove from nicaragua to costa

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and i opened the door in southern costa

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the energy of the jungle the vibration

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just imagining being standing there it

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an incredible vibration experience

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and i started getting criticized by some

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of the local environmentalists

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saying that i was destroying and i

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building greenhouses to create

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fruit tree nurseries immediately without

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even knowing anything about

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edible landscapes or permaculture or

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sustainability it was just

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what i love to do so i invited the

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critics into my office

293
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my goal was to inspire them to actually

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advocate for the development that i was

295
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building

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and they said no way in hell we will

297
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never support a developer no matter what

298
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so i eventually got them out of my

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office i wiped out the sweat and the

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tears and the blood

301
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and and one word stuck out to me

302
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and it was the word permaculture so i'm

303
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like okay what is this

304
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permaculture stuff so i started going

305
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into it i started researching it

306
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and at the same time i had learned that

307
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911 was an inside job

308
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and when i put those two things together

309
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i went down the rabbit hole and i've

310
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never really quit going down the rabbit

311
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hole although i've changed my focus

312
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so i learned that the system is

313
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completely controlled by the same

314
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families that have been running the show

315
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for

316
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hundreds if not thousands of years but

317
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definitely it's very

318
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clear hundreds of years when rothschild

319
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400 years ago

320
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said i'm gonna put my kids on the

321
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five continents or whatever all around

322
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the world and we're gonna

323
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control the world's currency

324
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isn't that nuts yeah it's true it's

325
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crazy yeah then 200 years later

326
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i think it was mayor rothschild in

327
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england said i care not which

328
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puppet sits on the throne of england

329
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when i control its currency and what is

330
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a currency

331
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it's the stored

332
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value of the people so they created a

333
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scam

334
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in order to steal the stored value of

335
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the people the energy of the slaves

336
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right and one of my other favorite

337
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quotes is uh ghost when he said

338
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none are more hopelessly enslaved than

339
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those who falsely believe they are free

340
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[Music]

341
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like that one gives me the chills

342
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because when i first heard that i said

343
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[\h__\h]

344
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i'm not a slave i can do whatever i want

345
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and then i was like

346
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wait a minute can i work and not pay

347
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property taxes or a percentage of my

348
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labor to the government

349
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and then what is the government well it

350
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just happens to be gubernatorimente

351
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which means

352
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manager control the mind right and my

353
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mind was blowing the whole time i'm like

354
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how could we have missed this obvious

355
00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:37,600
string of facts

356
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to think that we're not slaves so

357
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i'm a solution oriented optimist for the

358
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most part

359
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and i went down that rabbit hole and i

360
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went down two years of kind of

361
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shitty two years because i was focused

362
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on the ugly

363
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and then i started asking new questions

364
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like what are the solutions and i guess

365
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what inspired me and what the catalyst

366
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for the change in my focus was reading

367
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bill mullison's quote

368
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though the problems of our world are

369
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increasingly complex

370
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the solutions remain this one gets me

371
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every time

372
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the solutions remain embarrassingly

373
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simple

374
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yes boom i literally i

375
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probably bawled on and off for two days

376
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because

377
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that was my ticket to the path forward

378
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that was my ticket to freedom of my own

379
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mind of my own spirit

380
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having the faith and the courage to move

381
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forward because before that i was kind

382
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of in this fear state the state of

383
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holy [\h__\h] what are we gonna do and i

384
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didn't know

385
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what we were going to do i just knew

386
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that it sucked

387
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so anyway when i heard that i started

388
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focusing on the question

389
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how can i use every bit of my energy my

390
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ability my

391
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history and how can i learn to be

392
00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:03,519
a big part of this solution as big a

393
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part as i can possibly be

394
00:14:10,590 --> 00:14:08,480
and that was it and for the last 10

395
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years i've been asking the same question

396
00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:13,760
infatuated with the answer

397
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and the answer has taken me down this

398
00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:16,880
path

399
00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:19,040
to where we are now which is the

400
00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:22,320
simplest freaking thing in the world

401
00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:24,480
yes i'll stop for a second let you jump

402
00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:26,560
in i love it that's the kind of talk

403
00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:28,480
that motivates people around here i

404
00:14:32,310 --> 00:14:29,760
think and it's a really

405
00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:32,320
good summary of your journey i heard in

406
00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:33,920
a previous interview

407
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:36,320
you framed our situation as a fight

408
00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:38,639
between the promoters of life first the

409
00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:40,320
promoters of death and

410
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:42,079
the more i think about that that's

411
00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:44,000
really deep and it's a great way to

412
00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:46,720
sum it all up yeah this is good evil and

413
00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:48,720
i don't claim to understand really what

414
00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:50,480
that means other than

415
00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:53,279
there's one group that is promoting the

416
00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:53,760
death

417
00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:57,040
of the spirit of the soil of our air of

418
00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:58,399
our water and of our

419
00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:01,199
life on earth they're literally the

420
00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:02,399
poison

421
00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:05,519
producers and the manufacturers

422
00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:09,839
and the mandators of our society

423
00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:14,079
yeah and i know 2020 got really crazy

424
00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:14,959
for a lot of people

425
00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:18,000
masks vaccines store closings and

426
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a lot of shows like mine are focused on

427
00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:21,440
that

428
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are like wow permaculture

429
00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:26,480
gardening with all the problems we have

430
00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:27,760
that's where we're going

431
00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:29,440
and it's like well what more do you need

432
00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:31,440
to know about the problems we've been

433
00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:34,079
digesting them for over a year

434
00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:37,600
exactly so how we take back

435
00:15:41,829 --> 00:15:41,279
the power is we take their pillars of

436
00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:41,839
control

437
00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:45,519
well when we

438
00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:48,720
are paying taxes on land that we're

439
00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:51,199
supposed to own that's a slave tax

440
00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:54,399
and using it with grass and lawn

441
00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:57,199
now if you think about how [\h__\h] same

442
00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:57,920
this is

443
00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:01,440
a lawn a mono crop that you have to mow

444
00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:02,240
once a week

445
00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:04,000
in the summer or all year long if you're

446
00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:06,320
in florida and it produces

447
00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:09,360
no food yield

448
00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:13,360
or let's just say you have

449
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:16,399
a peach tree a plum tree and an

450
00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:19,680
apple tree right those will each produce

451
00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:24,079
about 200 fruit per year

452
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:27,600
that's 600 healthy snacks per year

453
00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:30,000
that would be basically free once you

454
00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:31,759
got these fruit trees planted

455
00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:34,560
and that are hyper nutritious compared

456
00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:35,279
to

457
00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:39,920
only that but they're growing without

458
00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:41,199
poisons

459
00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:45,920
for the medical system

460
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:49,040
that creates this endless loop that they

461
00:16:54,310 --> 00:16:50,000
control

462
00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:54,320
the keys to heaven

463
00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:57,519
education and the awareness of what they

464
00:17:01,350 --> 00:16:58,959
control how they control

465
00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:01,360
it gets us the freedom to choose to

466
00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:02,959
control our own

467
00:17:06,789 --> 00:17:05,760
yes well said and the american lawn

468
00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:06,799
conspiracy

469
00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:08,880
is definitely something that people

470
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:10,640
should think about like you say 40

471
00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:12,720
million acres of lawn

472
00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:15,199
it's soaked with poisons to keep it that

473
00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:16,799
way with nothing else growing there

474
00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,160
nothing of value

475
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,319
and it's interesting when you do that

476
00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:22,160
calculation of saying if we could just

477
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:22,880
turn

478
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:26,799
a third of that back into food forests

479
00:17:31,029 --> 00:17:28,720
i mean with the abundance that it

480
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:31,039
produces you can do that calculation and

481
00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:31,760
know that

482
00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,799
that would be enough acreage to really

483
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:36,480
really solve a lot of our problems and

484
00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:37,760
when you put in those terms

485
00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:41,520
it doesn't seem so lofty exactly

486
00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:44,880
it's not only not lofty it's the next

487
00:17:48,549 --> 00:17:46,799
logical step i might have said this

488
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:48,559
already but i'm going to say it again

489
00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,600
the garden of eden ideal

490
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:53,600
that most people think is some kind of

491
00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:55,679
illusory fantasy

492
00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:58,400
is the next logical step and here are

493
00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:00,160
some of the reasons why one

494
00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:03,280
is it's easier to grow a peach tree a

495
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:04,880
plum tree in an apple tree

496
00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:07,200
than it is to grow lawn that would

497
00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,280
normally be in that same area

498
00:18:13,909 --> 00:18:11,679
you'll have to prune these trees maybe

499
00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:13,919
once a year if you want to for 15

500
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:14,799
minutes

501
00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:17,600
and then instead of pruning if you take

502
00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:18,880
and cut a little bit

503
00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:20,559
a circle around the bark and you put

504
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:22,960
this little gadget on there with soil

505
00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:25,360
10 weeks ahead of time then when you cut

506
00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:26,240
that limb

507
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,960
off now you've got a new fruit tree

508
00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:31,039
that's worth 30 bucks and you just spent

509
00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:34,720
five minutes of effort to make 30 bucks

510
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,480
is that a good return on time invested

511
00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:38,160
for most people

512
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:40,559
absolutely those are the things that are

513
00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:42,000
inspiring to me because so many

514
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:44,240
of us are probably struggling in one way

515
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:45,120
or another

516
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,600
if we're lucky enough to have some land

517
00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:48,960
you really make it

518
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,520
seem very feasible that we can get a

519
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:53,840
return on that land instead of just

520
00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:56,000
a cost i mean especially in california

521
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,240
people watering lawns i mean it's 80

522
00:19:01,029 --> 00:19:00,240
bucks 100 bucks a month i think in some

523
00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:01,039
cases

524
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:03,840
it's like instead of just an outgoing

525
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:04,400
cost

526
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:06,240
you can really flip the script on that

527
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:07,840
and get better yields

528
00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:10,080
than some of us are making in our our

529
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:12,160
regular day job

530
00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:13,760
big time in fact that's one of the

531
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:15,679
things we do we help people start

532
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:18,960
nurseries that are the ultimate stack of

533
00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,000
functions so one function is you're

534
00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:24,320
gonna have a bunch of food you'll have

535
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:26,240
way more than enough food for your

536
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:27,840
family to eat on

537
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:30,320
a relatively small food forest like on a

538
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:31,200
quarter acre

539
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,760
food forest your family a normal-sized

540
00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:35,360
family a four-person family

541
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:38,720
could not eat all that food and

542
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:41,280
relatively speaking the roi and cash

543
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:41,919
alone

544
00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:43,600
like again let's just boil it down to

545
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,400
one peach tree it might cost to install

546
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:48,559
one peach tree let's call it a hundred

547
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,200
bucks right 150 bucks

548
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:53,679
in the first four years you're not going

549
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:55,520
to get too many peaches you might get a

550
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:57,200
couple hundred peaches in the first four

551
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,240
years total

552
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:00,400
but after that you get a couple hundred

553
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:01,919
peaches per year

554
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,280
now how much is an organic peach that's

555
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:07,600
basically vine ripened and by the way

556
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:08,400
mother nature

557
00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,640
knows best when you pick something

558
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:12,000
that's ripe

559
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:14,799
it's going to be more tasty and more

560
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:16,000
nutrient dense

561
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:17,760
than something that was picked two or

562
00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:20,159
three weeks before it was right

563
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:22,240
so how much does that cost well you're

564
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:23,919
talking about over

565
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,520
100 roi annually

566
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:29,600
once these food forests get up and

567
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,789
man yeah and what other sector can you

568
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,120
get that kind of roi

569
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,440
it's true it's so true and that's also

570
00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:41,120
money that doesn't go into the pocket of

571
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:42,559
the very people that are making

572
00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:45,360
our society worse and it's just a

573
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,400
beautiful thing

574
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:48,559
and of course on this show we don't have

575
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:50,159
the benefit of the visual

576
00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:53,280
aid that you had with the high wire but

577
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:55,280
help people understand what a food

578
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:57,200
forest really is the term is kind of

579
00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:58,640
obvious but

580
00:21:01,909 --> 00:21:00,799
paint a picture for us of how this is

581
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:01,919
different than just

582
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,640
a couple of raised beds and a couple of

583
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:06,799
tomato plants because

584
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:08,799
seeing what you do i mean it's a real

585
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:10,159
ecosystem in our

586
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,159
yards yeah it is it's an ecosystem it's

587
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,280
a food forest is a community of

588
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:20,240
plants that are designed to serve

589
00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:20,960
humanity

590
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:24,320
to serve the individual family primarily

591
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:25,440
so some people like

592
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,240
certain types of fruits and veggies and

593
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:30,640
roots and tubers and all the different

594
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:31,520
medicinal

595
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,440
benefits that go along with that other

596
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,960
families might like a little bit of a

597
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:36,159
different strategy

598
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,520
but we can design according to the needs

599
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,679
of the individual the family and the

600
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:43,120
community

601
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,240
and this is the grassroots movement this

602
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:47,919
is the idea whose time has come

603
00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:50,880
it's not up to the government to do this

604
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:51,440
for us

605
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:54,159
it's up to us as individuals and how do

606
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:54,960
we do that

607
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:57,520
well there are two ways to affect change

608
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:58,000
one is

609
00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,840
violence and force which is what's going

610
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:01,520
on around the world right now

611
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:05,679
and the other one is inspire to inspire

612
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:08,240
is to raise the vibration and to in

613
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:08,960
spirit

614
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,520
somebody and that's our job that's my

615
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:12,799
job is to inspire

616
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:15,280
people to take that first step and then

617
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,960
to empower them

618
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:18,720
in which direction to take the first

619
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,710
and now a lot of us are probably stuck

620
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:26,080
in situations where we

621
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,919
don't have any land we're renting

622
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,760
apartments in the city

623
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:32,640
we might be lucky just to have a small

624
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:33,760
patio

625
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,120
they're trying to push us into these

626
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,440
smart city grids and you know we

627
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:39,200
probably need to resist that but if

628
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:40,880
we're in a situation where we

629
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,360
don't have any land there are still a

630
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:45,520
few things we can do right in terms of

631
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:47,840
microgreens

632
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:51,919
turned my whole garage into a

633
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:54,240
microgreens garage a couple years back

634
00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:57,200
that was part of my path to where i am

635
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,559
now

636
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,480
and a little bit about microgreens you

637
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:01,919
can go to home depot

638
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:04,080
you can buy a rack you buy you know one

639
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:05,520
of those skinny racks

640
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:09,039
about maybe 12 or 14 inches

641
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,679
by 20 inches deep it might have four or

642
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:12,720
five or six

643
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,600
shelves on it you can buy an led light

644
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,280
for 29 bucks

645
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:20,400
for per top of each shelf and then

646
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:23,120
a tray of micro greens on the market is

647
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:26,559
between 20 and 30 bucks

648
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,360
your expense to grow that same tray of

649
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:31,039
microgreens is going to be about a buck

650
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:32,720
50.

651
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:35,440
and microgreens are 4 to 40 times more

652
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,080
nutrient

653
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:38,320
dense than their adult counterparts and

654
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,200
they harvest

655
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,240
in 14 days with very minimal

656
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:44,640
water you know a couple water a day and

657
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:45,600
you've got

658
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:47,679
like i i used to combine pea my

659
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:48,640
favorites were

660
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:50,320
pea broccoli and kale and a little

661
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:52,640
radish microgreen and i would take about

662
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,039
an

663
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:55,120
eighth of a tray of pea microgreens

664
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:56,480
which grow really fast they were like

665
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,000
eight inches tall and very

666
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,400
voluminous and then i would cut those

667
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,159
apart i cut some broccoli and kale and

668
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,320
radish and put those in a salad

669
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,799
it's the best salad very few people have

670
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:09,200
ever eaten a salad bat healthy

671
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:11,520
yeah i love it and another thing i was

672
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:12,240
thinking is

673
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:14,480
even if we don't personally have our own

674
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:15,440
homes

675
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,880
some extra space

676
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:20,880
in the yard that they're not using if

677
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:22,799
you were to take the initiative

678
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:26,320
to tend that space i'm sure your parents

679
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,760
would be grateful and

680
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,760
and willing to share that abundance that

681
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:31,279
you've created with you so

682
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:32,799
it doesn't have to be about your own

683
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:35,600
personal space use your networks

684
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,559
networks i mean there's grow towers

685
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:40,559
there's hydroponics in fact the cannabis

686
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,360
industry

687
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,919
they have shown us the way they have

688
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,679
shown us how we can grow a whole bunch

689
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,200
of green right in our closets

690
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,520
yeah you know of course the whole tomato

691
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,960
fertilizer thing is just

692
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,880
cold for cannabis fertilizer but guess

693
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,960
what it works great for tomatoes too

694
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,960
yeah plants are plants funny enough

695
00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:58,960
plants are plants

696
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:01,039
you know for people who do have a home a

697
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:02,080
lot of the time

698
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:05,039
they can't even make this transition if

699
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:07,120
they're in a subdivision or have an hoa

700
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,200
this little cartel that controls what

701
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,360
you can and can't do with your own land

702
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:13,679
how have you helped people to navigate

703
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:16,559
those situations

704
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,080
i blow right through those rules

705
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:21,919
like i've got five raised beds in my

706
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:24,559
backyard and i'm waiting for the fight

707
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:25,840
because i'm gonna take it to them

708
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:29,679
hardcore and they might force me

709
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:32,799
by handcuffs to take those down

710
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:35,919
and it might happen where

711
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:38,640
they take them out and try to charge me

712
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,360
for that

713
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,520
i am going to turn that problem into a

714
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,440
solution on social media

715
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:45,200
and i'm going to go nuts and i'm going

716
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:48,480
to benefit eventually from that problem

717
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:51,679
in fact that's not the norm obviously

718
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:53,679
most people don't want to go there

719
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,919
but most people can grow food in their

720
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:57,360
backyard

721
00:26:01,510 --> 00:26:00,080
it's the front yard for most hoas where

722
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:01,520
it's off limits

723
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,960
so if you want to follow the hoa rules

724
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,559
and i totally understand you're not

725
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:08,080
willing some people aren't willing to go

726
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:09,360
to that extreme

727
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:12,480
then get a design because

728
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,520
once the hoa sees that a food forest is

729
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,240
not some raggedy crazy thing

730
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,799
in fact i'll describe it in this way all

731
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:22,480
hoas their yards have

732
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:26,159
ornamental landscapes shrubs and bushes

733
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:27,600
and trees that don't produce

734
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,880
any food but they look nice you can have

735
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:31,760
the exact

736
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:34,799
same looking landscape

737
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:37,120
the only difference is it'll be all food

738
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,909
yeah i love it and that also makes me

739
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,120
think about

740
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,600
just our city structures in general i

741
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:47,200
mean how many

742
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,559
cities have shrubs and trees

743
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:52,960
and ornamental landscapes that are

744
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:55,279
constantly being maintained we pay a

745
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:57,200
park service typically to go around and

746
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,960
maintain all this stuff so it's not on

747
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,600
the roads

748
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,520
and it doesn't yield anything these same

749
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,039
people are right there

750
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,279
watering these landscapes they could be

751
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:07,440
picking that food too and taking it to

752
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:08,799
the food pantry

753
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:12,480
and improving a lot of lives you nailed

754
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,120
it

755
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:15,679
the american lawn takes more poisons and

756
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:16,960
more resources than

757
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,000
any other crop in the united states and

758
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,399
it doesn't provide food how insane is

759
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:24,320
that

760
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:27,600
yeah and if we had some kind of program

761
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:31,520
with our city hall which is usually on a

762
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:34,720
lot of land that could be a community

763
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,360
garden

764
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,600
and people who are down on their luck

765
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:40,080
could trade their hours in the garden

766
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:42,799
for the yields that it produces and

767
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:44,720
they're learning a valuable skill of

768
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,720
self-sufficiency at the same time of

769
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:48,000
course the system doesn't want

770
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,679
this but these are the things we should

771
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,120
push for

772
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:54,000
man great your logic is just right on

773
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:54,720
par

774
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:57,600
with mine and you're right there's a lot

775
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:57,919
of

776
00:28:01,269 --> 00:28:00,159
communities that will resist this but we

777
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,279
have to push

778
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,399
because the difference is life and death

779
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:06,159
and i don't say i'm not a fear guy you

780
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:07,520
know what i don't even believe in death

781
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:08,000
anyway

782
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:10,080
quite frankly so it's not about it's

783
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,840
about let's create the garden of eden

784
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:13,600
let's create this world

785
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,760
where we can actually have the peaceful

786
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:17,039
exchange of value

787
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,640
and that's also why we promote

788
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:20,640
capitalism so much because

789
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:23,360
they're you know socialism and communism

790
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,000
are

791
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:27,039
force and violence and

792
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:30,320
control capitalism true

793
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,200
real capitalism is the peaceful and

794
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:35,679
voluntary exchange of value it's a

795
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:36,880
beautiful thing

796
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:39,120
where everybody voluntarily exchanges

797
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:40,320
and everybody's happier

798
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:43,520
at the end of the exchange

799
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:46,480
indeed and let's sort of get into the

800
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,520
magic of

801
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,679
nature for a long time i thought this

802
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,880
stuff was boring

803
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,960
but when you see the intelligence of

804
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:54,799
trees and plants and how it all works

805
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:55,440
together

806
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,720
it actually starts to be pretty

807
00:29:02,470 --> 00:28:58,960
fascinating doesn't it

808
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,480
it's way more mind-boggling every day

809
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:04,399
i'm just amazed like

810
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:08,159
plants will release certain chemicals

811
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:11,600
pheromones that have colors that we

812
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,000
can't

813
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,200
see they're like i'm in danger or a

814
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,919
sos signal so the plant will be getting

815
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:19,279
eaten on by some

816
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:22,240
grub or army worm or bug or beetle and

817
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:23,360
it'll release

818
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:26,320
these chemicals and then a wasp will be

819
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,120
flying up

820
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:30,480
above the area and they'll see

821
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,840
a slight hue of pink or purple or green

822
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,000
and they'll go oh my gosh there's some

823
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:37,840
food down there they'll fly down

824
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:40,159
and they'll eat the grub that's eating

825
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:41,360
the plants

826
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:44,159
so why do we have all of these poisons

827
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:45,440
and killers to kill

828
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:48,720
all of these bugs and the microbiome

829
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:51,200
it's all part of the same control grid

830
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:52,000
those

831
00:30:02,950 --> 00:29:59,840
the foundation of our soil of our life

832
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,960
wow yeah and you can't

833
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,799
take the pieces of the puzzle and

834
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,320
separate them out they all kind of have

835
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,559
to go together 100

836
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:11,200
they do there's more organisms in a

837
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:12,480
handful of soil

838
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:18,470
wow and that's good soil of course the

839
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,000
non-depleted stuff

840
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,240
yeah yeah you nailed it and you

841
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:23,919
mentioned this in a previous interview

842
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,200
but the un

843
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,520
said we only have two generations of

844
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:29,279
soil left so in terms of

845
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,320
urgency that's not a lot of time

846
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:34,240
yeah yeah and of course the un is a

847
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,000
criminal organization so i don't

848
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,240
like quoting them the only reason i use

849
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:40,399
that fact is because i like to speak

850
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,360
to the gods of some of the people who

851
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:45,760
believe in their gods like the u.n

852
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:48,640
is higher up than god for a big group of

853
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,200
the

854
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:51,360
world right now so i said okay what do

855
00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:52,399
you do about this

856
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,000
and then they're like oh gosh yeah

857
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,440
that's something to consider

858
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:58,080
so the reason also i use that quote is

859
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,600
because permaculturists

860
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:01,679
and farmers are saying the same thing

861
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:02,720
they're saying our

862
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:05,279
soil has been poisoned mined and

863
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:06,399
depleted

864
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:09,600
for so long in such unsustainable

865
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,120
ridiculously destructive

866
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:14,159
processes that we have to make a change

867
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,720
right and for people who might be a

868
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:18,480
little bit shocked

869
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:21,519
or stressed out by hearing that kind of

870
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,320
news

871
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,960
how difficult is it to reverse that

872
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:26,640
damage now i'm not talking like

873
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,440
monsanto's big mono crop acreage or bill

874
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:31,360
gates buying up as much farmland as he

875
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:32,720
can but our own

876
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:35,760
land even if it's just a dirt pile

877
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:38,399
it's not that difficult to reverse that

878
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:39,440
and make it rich

879
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:43,279
is it it's not at all the life is

880
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:46,000
life nature is so much more powerful

881
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:46,720
than these

882
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:49,919
idiots um it's not at all it just takes

883
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:52,159
the right combination of things if you

884
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:53,120
just let it go

885
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,080
if you just quit poising it it would be

886
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,640
totally healed in a matter of time

887
00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,480
some places of course would take more

888
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:02,399
time than others because there's been

889
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:05,519
so many poison applications for so long

890
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:07,200
but there's enough left and i'm

891
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:10,399
completely optimistic that we will see

892
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,840
the garden of eden type of scenario

893
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,000
everywhere

894
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,360
it will help a lot if we do exactly what

895
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,360
i'm advocating and that is to become

896
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:21,440
producers as well as consumers

897
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,480
to start using your resources your lawn

898
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:26,559
wisely and this is something that needs

899
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,840
to be said because a lot of people think

900
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,399
well

901
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,559
shoot i've been spraying my lawn or the

902
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:32,159
landscaping company has been spraying

903
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,200
poisons on my lawn

904
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:35,279
so now i can't grow food no no no you

905
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:37,279
absolutely can

906
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:39,440
those poisons aren't as powerful as

907
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:41,120
nature so they have to be reapplied and

908
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:42,159
reapplied

909
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:48,240
then nature will bounce back relatively

910
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,240
quickly

911
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,720
well said and so what would be some of

912
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:54,880
our first steps to

913
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:58,000
revitalizing a dead dirt patch that we

914
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:58,559
might

915
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:01,200
have somewhere on the property if you

916
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,760
want to

917
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,600
speed it up the number one thing you do

918
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:05,200
is just stop poisoning it

919
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:08,240
and first and foremost quit applying

920
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:09,120
place

921
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:12,320
secondly you'd want to plant some plants

922
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:16,159
that heal the soil for instance hemp

923
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:19,200
leeches out heavy metals and even

924
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:22,799
nuclear radioactive soil

925
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,000
nitrogen fixers help replace nitrogen

926
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,080
that's been leached out of the soil

927
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:31,440
daisies and dandelions all of these

928
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:34,000
pioneering plants i mean this whole idea

929
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:35,200
of weeds

930
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,720
is a marketing tool to sell us poisons

931
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:41,039
this whole idea of viruses is a

932
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,320
marketing tool

933
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:44,960
to sell us poisons our bodies made of

934
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,720
viruses like literally there's more

935
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:48,960
viruses in our body than there are

936
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,120
strands of dna in fact our dna is made

937
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:52,799
of viruses in some cases

938
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,559
in part right so anything that we've

939
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:58,480
learned we have to first start breaking

940
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,200
down

941
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:01,279
and unlearning what we've been

942
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,760
programmed to believe

943
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,000
so anyway back to weeds there are no

944
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:07,679
weeds every plant

945
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:10,879
and every pioneer has a purpose and so

946
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,520
it's

947
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:13,359
important a little bit to either just

948
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:14,960
let it do its own thing

949
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,839
or to kind of understand and design

950
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:19,919
according to the purpose that you want

951
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:21,119
to see come

952
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:24,960
to fruition that's a good point about

953
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:27,520
the weeds i remember growing up my

954
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,480
parents would pull

955
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:31,200
dandelions out of the lawn but yet now i

956
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:31,760
see

957
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:34,720
bottled dandelions in like herb stores

958
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:36,320
and stuff so it's like the medicine was

959
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,520
right there

960
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,839
isn't that amazing i'll never forget the

961
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:42,320
time i was like seven or eight years old

962
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:45,599
and i was in the lawn and there were

963
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:47,040
dandelions popping up and i

964
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:48,879
i went and grabbed one and i said how

965
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,159
beautiful it was

966
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,480
and i can't remember with my mom dad

967
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:54,079
said oh they're bad

968
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:56,159
and my my dad are awesome people like

969
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,200
but

970
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,440
they believed that danny lies were bad

971
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:00,960
and it was the best thing in the whole

972
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,440
lawn

973
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:05,760
yeah i'm always really interested to

974
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:07,040
learn these just

975
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,480
little anecdotes of plant intelligence

976
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,400
i'm sure you've got a laundry list of

977
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:13,920
them but can you give the people a few

978
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,400
more

979
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:17,520
examples of plant intelligence that blew

980
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:20,880
your mind throughout learning all this

981
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:23,200
the main thing is mimicking natural

982
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:24,160
systems so

983
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:27,040
for instance a spider a lot of people

984
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,119
they see a spider web they take it down

985
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,880
if we have a spiderweb near our front

986
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,320
door we

987
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,320
love that that's our mosquito catcher

988
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:36,400
that's a permaculture

989
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,599
solution to a really freaking annoying

990
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:41,280
problem

991
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:44,079
possums we have possum boxes at our

992
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:45,440
community golf landing

993
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,240
possums are nature's number one woodtick

994
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:50,160
killer killing tens of thousands and

995
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:50,880
eating

996
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:53,920
wood ticks per year so people love

997
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:56,960
to kill or to push these animals away

998
00:36:03,190 --> 00:35:59,440
from us we need to invite them

999
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:03,200
in to the system a lot of people say i'm

1000
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,560
scared of the bees

1001
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,800
or i'm scared of the snakes or the rats

1002
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:08,320
or a food forest is going to bring in

1003
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:09,040
rats

1004
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,480
that's just the silliest thing i've ever

1005
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:12,640
heard a food forest will bring in

1006
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,240
a balance of everything in fact in our

1007
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,560
backyard we've got a compost pile here

1008
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:20,800
and we started throwing compost maybe a

1009
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,760
year and a half ago

1010
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,280
and we're living kind of a rental

1011
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:25,119
suburban hoa type thing

1012
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,400
we're not supposed to have the compost

1013
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,480
pile but anyway

1014
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:30,800
we started doing that about three months

1015
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:31,599
later

1016
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:34,880
we had a hawk that now made a home

1017
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,520
and every day the hawk takes a look at

1018
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,440
our compost pile and one day i saw the

1019
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,480
hawk carrying a big

1020
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:42,960
i think it was a rat i'd never actually

1021
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:44,480
seen a rat in there but obviously

1022
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:45,680
they're there

1023
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,839
and they're everywhere but now we have a

1024
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:48,960
hawk

1025
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,280
so when we took out some of the apex

1026
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,720
predators

1027
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,560
the wolves and the bears and these

1028
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:56,000
different predators in

1029
00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,280
our ecosystem we create a massive

1030
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:02,160
unbalance we have to then become the

1031
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:03,440
apex predator

1032
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:06,480
or like happened at yellowstone

1033
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,599
the elk and the bison were eating

1034
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:12,320
all of the vegetation so when they

1035
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:12,960
released

1036
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:16,000
packs of wolves into yellowstone it

1037
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:16,640
literally

1038
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,079
changed the course of the rivers

1039
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:23,040
wow yeah it's just i think the same

1040
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:23,520
about

1041
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:26,720
our own bodies like how can i

1042
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:30,400
trust a system like the cdc that wants

1043
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,680
to inject us

1044
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,440
when they don't even understand that

1045
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,119
consciousness is a thing they don't look

1046
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:36,960
at the body holistically

1047
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:39,440
just like you can't introduce wolves

1048
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,680
without unintended consequences it's a

1049
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,920
big giant ecosystem our bodies the same

1050
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,880
way and it's like

1051
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:46,880
on a fundamental level without that

1052
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:48,640
holistic approach

1053
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:52,640
i would say do not meddle exactly

1054
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,839
oh my gosh the story upon story i lived

1055
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,920
in maui for four years and

1056
00:38:02,829 --> 00:38:00,160
they had a major rap problem so they

1057
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:04,710
mongooses well

1058
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:07,119
mongooses are diurnal and rats are

1059
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,000
nocturnal

1060
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:10,079
so now you've got just mongooses all

1061
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:11,599
over the place eaten out of the trash

1062
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:13,040
cans and rats

1063
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:16,800
wow the idiocracy of people now lately

1064
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:17,680
bill gates has

1065
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,960
released bile gmod mosquitoes into

1066
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:22,000
florida

1067
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,119
yes i mean there's some wicked [\h__\h]

1068
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,880
going on there i don't know exactly what

1069
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:28,560
that is but there's some

1070
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:32,560
sinister intent behind that yes i agree

1071
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,599
and uh time might tell unfortunately but

1072
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:37,119
yeah no we got to live our lives

1073
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,000
regardless and focus on what we can do

1074
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:43,040
and we have talked about some pretty

1075
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:44,480
bold things like

1076
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:47,599
getting our food forest under control

1077
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,640
could actually nationwide reverse cancer

1078
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,520
trends reverse diabetes trends and

1079
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,760
and make a lot of inroads into the

1080
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:56,720
profits of

1081
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,040
big pharma because our stuff that we

1082
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,880
need for proper health is right in our

1083
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:02,480
own backyard

1084
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,680
exactly we have to take control of our

1085
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:08,000
minds our energy our vibration our

1086
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:09,440
bodies our guts

1087
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,640
and we can do that so easily so

1088
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,960
people spend an average of let's say if

1089
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:16,560
you're think you're a healthy person how

1090
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:17,280
many

1091
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,920
minutes a day do you spend working out

1092
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:21,760
or doing yoga or any of those things

1093
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,160
what do

1094
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:24,079
would you say a half an hour every every

1095
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:25,359
other day would be

1096
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:28,480
normal yeah for people who are uh good

1097
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:29,040
about it

1098
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,480
for sure so if you spent that same half

1099
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:33,680
an hour

1100
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,839
doing meditation and yoga while

1101
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:37,520
gardening

1102
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,839
you you'd have all of the food you need

1103
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,839
and that amazing that's the ultimate

1104
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,119
stack of functions

1105
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,359
when you can take the same benefits and

1106
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:49,119
you can add another benefit

1107
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:51,040
and now you've got all the food which is

1108
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:52,880
also all the health which is also saving

1109
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:53,280
money

1110
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,839
and saving the planet and gaining

1111
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,800
freedom wow

1112
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,400
you make it seem like we had this

1113
00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:00,320
miracle cure right there at our

1114
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,839
fingertips and we just

1115
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:04,480
thought it was too simple too boring to

1116
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:05,440
really get into

1117
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,839
but it could help us economically

1118
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:09,440
financially it can help us

1119
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:13,520
our health it's really just a no-brainer

1120
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:17,119
it's a no-brainer and that's the program

1121
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,480
i don't tend to talk about this a lot

1122
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,240
but it's just so much fun to think about

1123
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,560
this idea of the garden of eden

1124
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,240
i'm not a religious person i'm a very

1125
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,240
spiritual person but there was a

1126
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:31,200
split there and i think that is a

1127
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,240
metaphor

1128
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:35,599
for when the contrast came in

1129
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:39,920
and started creating these alternative

1130
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:42,880
death symptoms or death structures

1131
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:45,839
because without this at the same time as

1132
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,359
this is definitely a path to death if we

1133
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,000
continue on it of the whole system at

1134
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:54,480
the same time without this contrast

1135
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:58,640
would people be asking new questions um

1136
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:01,920
yeah and you know the garden of eden

1137
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:05,680
or this concept we have of a golden age

1138
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,760
what does it look like in your mind it

1139
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:09,760
doesn't look like new york city

1140
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,359
no it doesn't to me it just feels like

1141
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,040
i've lived in these food forests and

1142
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,359
stuff in costa rica and here

1143
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,040
it's the garden of eden it's like you

1144
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:20,960
look around and you can walk

1145
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,680
20 feet any direction and get a handful

1146
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:25,200
of food

1147
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:28,000
yeah it's amazing and can you elaborate

1148
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:28,640
on

1149
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:31,599
what those eco villages in costa rica

1150
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,319
looked like

1151
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:34,000
because it's more than just a food

1152
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:35,599
forest right i mean you're helping with

1153
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:36,400
the

1154
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:39,839
uh water collection

1155
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,440
and the energy production right yeah so

1156
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,599
i'll talk about gals landing so john

1157
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,599
galt from atlas shrugged

1158
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:49,760
who is john gallagher the primary

1159
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:50,800
character

1160
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:53,359
in that book about freedom and

1161
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:54,480
self-reliance

1162
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:57,680
so we're creating community on 52 acres

1163
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,119
it's got a private lake we've got the

1164
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:01,599
only dock on the lake and 10 home sites

1165
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:04,480
and the community is we've planted our

1166
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:04,880
first

1167
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:07,520
starter food forest and it's right in

1168
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,000
the middle

1169
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,319
of kind of a woodsy area it's at the end

1170
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,079
of a road there's deer and bear and all

1171
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:13,920
these animals everywhere

1172
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:17,119
and it's thriving we haven't touched it

1173
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:20,240
in 12 months we have done nothing no

1174
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,119
maintenance

1175
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:23,280
and it's thriving and there's lemons and

1176
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,280
cherries and blueberries and i mean

1177
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:28,640
55 different plants in this little area

1178
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:31,920
so it's all about scale from that

1179
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,599
one area we can seed the next area and

1180
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,280
the next area in the next area

1181
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:39,119
now that'll take time so we're just

1182
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,400
going to buy a bunch more fruit trees

1183
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:41,839
and stick them in

1184
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:45,119
and save that extra 20 or 30 years

1185
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,880
but being in a food forest the

1186
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,720
butterflies the birds

1187
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,119
the life it's a vibration experience

1188
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,040
when you stop your mind and just take a

1189
00:43:03,349 --> 00:42:59,510
you feel this balance

1190
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:03,359
this connection to what we're supposed

1191
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:04,720
to be connected to

1192
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:07,760
the disconnect the program

1193
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:10,800
that we have experienced since then

1194
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,119
is the disconnect but now we're in the

1195
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,359
apocalypse which means lifting the veil

1196
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,880
the age of enlightenment the age of

1197
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,319
aquarius like it's written in the

1198
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:20,079
freaking stars it's written in all the

1199
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,440
religious texts

1200
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,680
that there will be a time when we have

1201
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:25,440
to make some choices

1202
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:28,720
and the choice is whether we continue

1203
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:29,200
down

1204
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,560
the programming road or we

1205
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,240
have faith and courage and those are

1206
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:36,079
clues faith has always been a clue have

1207
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:37,520
faith have faith okay what is the hell

1208
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,240
does that mean

1209
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,480
well it means quit having fear like

1210
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:42,640
start focusing forward on what you can

1211
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:43,280
do take

1212
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:46,000
action little by little the right

1213
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:46,720
direction

1214
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,280
with faith and that's how we heal

1215
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,440
ourselves and our world

1216
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,599
yeah you got to trust that the good will

1217
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,680
win out and if you have that trust you

1218
00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:57,760
focus less on the immediate

1219
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,520
panic and fear absolutely

1220
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:04,400
yes and galt's landing i have seen the

1221
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,079
concept art for this

1222
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:08,240
it just looks like a permaculture

1223
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:10,000
paradise neighborhood

1224
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,200
and it's in central florida right yes

1225
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:15,760
central florida it's about 35 minutes

1226
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,720
from orlando international

1227
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,319
yeah i can't wait to live there i'm

1228
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:22,079
going to use my home there which will be

1229
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,440
completely off grid

1230
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,280
every home site's designed with a

1231
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,280
complete food forest its own well

1232
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:30,240
in its own energy center and i can't

1233
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:31,839
wait to be there and use that as my

1234
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,760
stage to show the world

1235
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,160
that off-grid doesn't mean some cabin in

1236
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:38,640
the woods it doesn't mean

1237
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:40,480
gardening all day long it's just

1238
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:42,079
completely the next

1239
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,079
logical step yeah yeah it really

1240
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:49,359
reminds me of a previous attempt

1241
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,880
from jacque fresco to try to show

1242
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,720
what he was doing with the venus project

1243
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,480
it's a little more on the tech

1244
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,720
side but he was trying to set up

1245
00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:01,040
something in florida before he died that

1246
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,079
would be

1247
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:04,640
an example people could come and tour to

1248
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:06,000
see the efficiency

1249
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,000
and living within nature rather than

1250
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,240
dominating it and clearing it out

1251
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:12,480
and it's awesome that you're doing that

1252
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:14,800
because once people

1253
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,599
see the template it could spread it

1254
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:19,520
could spread like crazy

1255
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,400
yeah it will absolutely spread because

1256
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:24,800
there's no reason not to do it

1257
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,760
other than programmed bs belief systems

1258
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:29,520
bad science and [\h__\h]

1259
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:33,440
the benefits of this type of life

1260
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,040
stack on every level it's a better

1261
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,400
life and

1262
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:41,760
maybe we said a few things about it but

1263
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,079
what can you say about the

1264
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,400
maintenance time that it takes not only

1265
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:48,160
is that time good for us

1266
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:51,119
like we mentioned but people have this

1267
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:53,359
impression that it's another full-time

1268
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:56,000
job but the way you design these things

1269
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:57,599
they kind of take care of themselves

1270
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:58,400
outside of

1271
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:01,599
a once or twice a year pruning session

1272
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:03,760
on the trees is that right

1273
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,920
yes i'll give you an example the

1274
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:07,520
archaeologists who have studied the

1275
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,200
amazon rainforest have been

1276
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,440
you know studying this for decades and

1277
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:13,200
what they have recently

1278
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,839
come to learn is that the amazon

1279
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:17,599
rainforest was a design

1280
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:20,640
food forest 5 000 years ago yes

1281
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:23,839
and how much maintenance does it take

1282
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:27,040
none so the pruning

1283
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,480
will help create a better yield of fruit

1284
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,079
because when you take that energy and

1285
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:33,839
you put into fruit production instead of

1286
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,119
new branches

1287
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:38,240
then you get a better yield you also get

1288
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:39,680
new fruit trees if you do it right like

1289
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:40,480
grafting

1290
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,680
air layering lingering stuff so i want

1291
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,960
to talk to you about the difference

1292
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,319
between perennials and

1293
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,960
annuals perennials are plants that you

1294
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:50,480
plant and they're going to live for two

1295
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:51,760
or more years

1296
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:54,720
most of them last for generations in

1297
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:55,680
fact there's an

1298
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,240
olive tree on the greek isle of crete

1299
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:00,880
that was planted over 2 000 years ago

1300
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,480
and is still producing olives today damn

1301
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,160
no maintenance in fact they've got a

1302
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:08,640
fence around it leave it alone

1303
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,680
so if you want to have where

1304
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:14,319
you like gardening then you're going to

1305
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,200
want to have some

1306
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,839
annuals right because annuals cucumbers

1307
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,839
and tomatoes and squash and peppers and

1308
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,960
all these

1309
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,640
you're going to want to be out there

1310
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:24,960
maybe a couple times a week

1311
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,480
playing with the plants and stuff and

1312
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,160
you can turn that into a

1313
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:30,079
meditative session in fact they found

1314
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,200
that gardening as

1315
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,280
is healthy for your body as yoga and

1316
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:34,800
meditation

1317
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,520
so you can stack that function

1318
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:39,839
perennials are the food forests that we

1319
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,960
love to design

1320
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:43,119
although we do also design annuals into

1321
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:44,000
the systems

1322
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,960
but the primary focus is on perennial

1323
00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:48,240
food forests

1324
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,319
that you could leave for 30 years and

1325
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,000
come back and you've just got a

1326
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,720
food forest right right and i've heard

1327
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,760
you say that

1328
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,839
if someone is kind of in a desperate

1329
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,599
situation or really wants to hit the

1330
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:01,280
ground running

1331
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:04,240
perennials are for quick food production

1332
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:04,480
and

1333
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,160
annuals are for long-term food

1334
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:08,000
production is that right

1335
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:11,440
so annuals are plants that will harvest

1336
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:15,839
in 45 to 90 days perennials are fruit

1337
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:17,200
trees and berry bushes

1338
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:19,040
oh gotcha so like the reverse of what i

1339
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,960
just said yeah

1340
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:23,520
all of the systems we design we advocate

1341
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,000
for

1342
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:26,640
using them so a little bit about the

1343
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,760
design itself

1344
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:30,800
we start by building the base which

1345
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,839
is oftentimes but not always it's often

1346
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,680
sheet mulching which you have a base of

1347
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:36,559
cardboard

1348
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:40,720
some soil on top of the soil you put a

1349
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:43,200
layer of mulch which could be wood chips

1350
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,160
or just any

1351
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:47,520
plants mulched up because that simulates

1352
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:50,319
a natural system you don't see exposed

1353
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:52,240
dirt if you go into the jungle or into

1354
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,200
any forest

1355
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,200
you see leaves and sticks and you see

1356
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,200
things on the ground

1357
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:00,000
so for the first couple years your food

1358
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:01,680
forest canopy will be

1359
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:04,480
it'll be an immature food forest so sun

1360
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:05,839
will be hitting

1361
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:08,319
the ground that's when you want to plant

1362
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:09,520
the annuals in there

1363
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,480
so you can maximize your yield starting

1364
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,319
60 to 90 days you're already going to be

1365
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,240
getting yield from your food forest

1366
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,800
and then within three to four years the

1367
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,079
canopy of the

1368
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,319
fruit trees is going to take up all the

1369
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,160
sun and in that case you're going to

1370
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:25,680
want to move the annuals to a different

1371
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:28,160
location

1372
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,599
okay so i've also heard you say since

1373
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,119
we're on this topic that the first

1374
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,200
mistake a lot of americans make

1375
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:37,599
is not having good soil amendment and

1376
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:38,480
not enough

1377
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,760
attention paid to good mulch what are

1378
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:43,599
the components of

1379
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,119
good soil amendment well

1380
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:49,760
it depends on so many different factors

1381
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:50,960
like location you know

1382
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:55,200
where i was at costa rica the ants

1383
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:58,800
there was a fungal web that was how

1384
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:02,000
decomposition primarily worked here in

1385
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:02,880
florida

1386
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:06,240
it's more of a bacterial system

1387
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:09,599
so worms are going to be

1388
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:12,480
most places worm castings are nature's

1389
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:13,280
by far

1390
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,480
best fertilizer and biochar if you can

1391
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:18,800
do inoculated biochar which is basically

1392
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:19,920
just biochar

1393
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:22,720
that has worm castings mixed into it now

1394
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,839
you've got

1395
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:25,760
the best of both worlds so that would be

1396
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:27,760
a good start

1397
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:31,040
a good black soil rich black soil if you

1398
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:31,440
find

1399
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:39,109
nice clear to look for and another thing

1400
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,000
in terms of people

1401
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:42,240
trying to figure out what they can grow

1402
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:43,839
and wanting to do this

1403
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,400
really efficiently because there are so

1404
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:48,240
many things but you say a lot of them

1405
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:49,839
work symbiotically

1406
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,400
we have so many choices it can be

1407
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:54,160
difficult we might have analysis

1408
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:57,839
paralysis are there certain categories

1409
00:51:01,270 --> 00:51:00,240
that we could stick to just to help make

1410
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:01,280
it easier

1411
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:04,800
to choose correctly with so many options

1412
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,160
well yes i mean the main category for me

1413
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:11,119
like i just referred to is no poisons

1414
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,880
but that does bring up a thought here

1415
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:14,400
now that we're getting towards the two

1416
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:15,200
hour mark

1417
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,200
i want to share if you're okay with it

1418
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:18,480
the opportunity

1419
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:22,079
that is before all of us to be part of

1420
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:22,480
this

1421
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,920
change so the problem

1422
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,680
is the food supply chain i don't know if

1423
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:29,359
you've heard of the ice age farmer

1424
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:31,359
love that guy oh yeah he's been here

1425
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:32,960
before previous guest

1426
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,440
oh yeah awesome i would i'd love to talk

1427
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:37,280
to him i've been so busy i haven't

1428
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:38,800
talked to him personally yet but i would

1429
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,960
sure love to because

1430
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,359
he has exposed very clearly what's going

1431
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:45,280
on with the intentional destruction of

1432
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,559
the food supply chain

1433
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:49,040
so if the problem is the lack of the

1434
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:50,000
food supply chain

1435
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:52,160
then the solution is opposite of that

1436
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,200
the solution

1437
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:55,440
is to build our own food supply chain

1438
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:56,240
and

1439
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,079
endeavor but when we're

1440
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:02,640
actually stacking functions and turning

1441
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:05,920
landscaping into food forest landscaping

1442
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:08,559
instead of just ornamental landscaping

1443
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,280
now

1444
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,160
we've got a standard business model that

1445
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:14,480
is beneficial on every level

1446
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:17,119
it's profitable it helps save the

1447
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:18,559
customer

1448
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:20,880
it turns a liability of their yard into

1449
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:22,000
an asset

1450
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,119
and it helps save the cancer and

1451
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:28,319
diabetes and heart disease i mean if you

1452
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,720
just

1453
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,680
look that one factor the odds of having

1454
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,760
heart disease diabetes and cancer

1455
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,280
when you have a food forest in your

1456
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:37,280
backyard and you eat a healthy meal once

1457
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,079
a day

1458
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,559
are going to go down radically so if

1459
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:42,640
that were the only reason would that not

1460
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:44,480
be a good enough reason for most people

1461
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,040
when

1462
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:47,040
70 80 percent of people die of those

1463
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:48,240
three things

1464
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,920
boom so become a producer and

1465
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,520
what we like to promote is if you want

1466
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:55,119
to be in the business

1467
00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:58,319
of helping people grow food then get

1468
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,839
ahold of us because that's what we do

1469
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:01,440
we're in that business we created the

1470
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,480
foundation

1471
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,880
we have a permaculture design team who

1472
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:05,680
helps design

1473
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,280
food for us we have installation manager

1474
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:11,760
we have all the components to make it

1475
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:12,319
easy

1476
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:15,359
for somebody to plug into this business

1477
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,640
and this scalable business is how we

1478
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:20,000
create our freedom

1479
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:23,920
from tyranny on all of those levels

1480
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:26,319
yes and i was gonna bring that up as

1481
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,000
we're wrapping this up i always like the

1482
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,319
last section to be really more about the

1483
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,720
practical aspects of the guests work and

1484
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:34,559
how they can be supported and

1485
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,920
uh how we can take it forward and yes it

1486
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,599
seems like

1487
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:42,000
maybe listeners who are so jazzed up

1488
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:43,040
that they're thinking no

1489
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:45,040
you know what screw my corporate job

1490
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:46,559
where i'm doing harm

1491
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:48,880
i want to transition to something else

1492
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:49,680
like

1493
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:55,200
designers across the country or hiring

1494
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:56,559
people to implement some of the

1495
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:58,400
blueprints that you're giving people

1496
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:59,599
nationwide like

1497
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,520
there does seem to be opportunities for

1498
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:03,440
people to

1499
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:06,319
transition their their jobs even within

1500
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,680
what you're doing is that what you're

1501
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:08,880
saying

1502
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:11,359
not just opportunities the opportunity

1503
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,640
of a lifetime

1504
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,880
if you if you for real if you want to

1505
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,400
have your own business

1506
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:18,720
and you are inspired by what we're

1507
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,920
talking about today

1508
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:22,240
then definitely get a hold of us because

1509
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:23,839
like i'll give you an example

1510
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:26,880
mario and lisa up in the carolinas

1511
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,839
they've been at this now about 35 45

1512
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,880
days or so

1513
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,880
and they're getting job after job after

1514
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:34,480
job because

1515
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:37,040
our network is expanding so fast that

1516
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,000
we're looking for people to help supply

1517
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,880
the on the ground installation part of

1518
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,000
the business

1519
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:46,079
so we've created the foundation of that

1520
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,119
the structure

1521
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:49,520
which includes the shirts and the brands

1522
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,160
and the

1523
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,640
content we've got an amazing social

1524
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,319
media marketing campaign

1525
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:57,359
and leader goes day here and she's

1526
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:57,920
helping

1527
00:55:00,950 --> 00:55:00,319
with that piece of the puzzle we've got

1528
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:00,960
support

1529
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,400
team managers and leaders so in essence

1530
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:06,720
somebody's getting a full team of

1531
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,839
partners

1532
00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:10,319
and we do a split in fact it's a lot

1533
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:12,400
like a franchise except for

1534
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:15,280
i hate the [\h__\h] i actually spent a

1535
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:16,720
quarter million dollars

1536
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,839
getting prepared for a launch of this

1537
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:21,280
type of business although i

1538
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,040
refined it made it simpler and simpler

1539
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:24,960
and simpler and

1540
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:27,680
our job is to support the people that

1541
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:28,720
are on the ground

1542
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:31,599
helping people grow food in every way

1543
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:32,000
and

1544
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:35,040
it's going well as a result of just the

1545
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,960
last 35-40 days

1546
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:39,119
we're going to be in 40 states and 10

1547
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:40,240
countries

1548
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,520
by summer by june july

1549
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:45,359
it's going viral and then every one of

1550
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:46,640
those people

1551
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,240
once their neighbors see what they're

1552
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:50,000
doing they're going to tell their

1553
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:51,280
friends and they're going to tell their

1554
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:52,079
friends

1555
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:55,119
and the people the awake people

1556
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:57,040
thanks to dell and his group and his

1557
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,160
team and his network

1558
00:56:01,589 --> 00:56:00,799
and everything else we're doing yourself

1559
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,599
greg

1560
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:03,440
i'm very honored to be here and i

1561
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,040
appreciate the work you're doing

1562
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:06,960
yes yes and i heard you say you got a

1563
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,880
very big response from

1564
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:11,040
dell's show and i would say challenge

1565
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:13,280
accepted because we have a pretty

1566
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:16,160
large and responsive audience as well

1567
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,680
and i would like to see

1568
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:20,400
uh you feel that impact and just before

1569
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:21,119
we go i

1570
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:22,720
i had a couple more questions about

1571
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:25,760
galt's landing i mean i am just curious

1572
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:28,160
when this is going to be done when

1573
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:29,920
people are going to start purchasing

1574
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,079
these properties and moving in

1575
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:34,000
i mean how close is this to

1576
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,520
implementation versus

1577
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,400
design phase so the first house will be

1578
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:40,240
done in about two months

1579
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:43,040
and the first doc is in the first minute

1580
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:43,760
food for us

1581
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,640
in the first wells in so we are going to

1582
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:48,319
have a demonstration site

1583
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:50,640
literally by by the end of summer at the

1584
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:51,359
latest

1585
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,520
we'll be on site and proving the model

1586
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:57,520
wow and i understand there's only really

1587
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:00,160
10 housing units in the neighborhood

1588
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:02,480
maybe there will be more left sorry

1589
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:03,680
eight lots left

1590
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:07,520
geez and the house is already built

1591
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:09,839
or the the people build their own houses

1592
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,160
and the food forest just goes around it

1593
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,240
my partner brian is the developer i'm

1594
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,079
the owner of lot nine and i kind of put

1595
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,559
the food for a sustainability piece

1596
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,400
the food forest will go around the house

1597
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:22,160
but it's everybody's gonna have

1598
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:23,520
ownership of their own

1599
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:27,119
one plus acre homestead and then the

1600
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:28,640
common areas are all going to be food

1601
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:30,640
for us as well

1602
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:32,319
but anybody can do it basically what

1603
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:34,000
they want with their own piece of the

1604
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:34,799
puzzle

1605
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,160
wow amazing amazing i never saw myself

1606
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,319
moving from san diego to central florida

1607
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,480
but i am tempted that just sounds

1608
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:44,880
so great and okay so if people are

1609
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:46,000
jazzed up

1610
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:48,559
they could also what get a blueprint

1611
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,440
from you

1612
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,599
take the course what other offerings

1613
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:53,119
should they know about before we call it

1614
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:53,680
in

1615
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,040
design

1616
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,440
in such a way where if they want to diy

1617
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:05,359
it we will help them through that

1618
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:06,160
process

1619
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:08,079
they'll be able to save the margin that

1620
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,680
we make as a corporation

1621
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:12,160
and we love it in fact we will even

1622
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,520
encourage those people

1623
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:15,280
to join our network and become

1624
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:16,799
demonstrators in their

1625
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:19,520
areas to inspire more people because you

1626
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,119
don't want to be the only person in the

1627
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:23,680
years to come that has food

1628
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:26,960
that is true that is true man

1629
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:29,359
well jim this has just been amazing i

1630
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:32,160
think your passion is pretty contagious

1631
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,559
and if we want these systems that don't

1632
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,200
serve us to go away or see them decline

1633
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:39,119
we have to build the better systems that

1634
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:40,319
will take us forward

1635
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,319
and i appreciate that you're paving the

1636
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:43,920
way thanks for

1637
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:45,520
taking the time keep fighting the good

1638
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:46,960
fight

1639
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:49,760
greg man it's been a pleasure first two

1640
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,400
hour

1641
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:53,040
podcast and i'm just uh i love it and i

1642
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:54,640
appreciate everything you're doing thank

1643
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:55,200
you

1644
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:00,799
cheers man have a good one cheers

1645
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,200
youtube buddy ciao

1646
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,000
all hail the great jim gayle swinging

1647
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:10,319
back into the solution side of things

1648
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,319
with a guest who's not shy about

1649
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,160
peppering in a little shade thrown at

1650
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,079
the capstone cabal

1651
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,480
and that's a recipe for a great thc i

1652
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,079
would say

1653
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:22,000
and this was another episode where once

1654
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:23,680
we got off the air i

1655
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:26,319
asked about a coupon code or any sort of

1656
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:27,760
deal he might want to give to the

1657
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,400
listeners

1658
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,440
and we do have a little something jim

1659
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,040
said that for anyone who

1660
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:36,160
does order a food forest installation on

1661
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,359
their property

1662
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,760
he will give them a free fruit tree if

1663
00:59:43,829 --> 00:59:41,920
they mention this interview

1664
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:43,839
so that's pretty cool if you are

1665
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:45,680
fortunate enough to have a little space

1666
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,000
i think

1667
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,119
this would be an awesome use of it

1668
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:51,760
obviously extra space is hard to come by

1669
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:53,920
in california but i have friends who own

1670
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:54,960
houses

1671
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:57,440
back home in missouri in colorado and

1672
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:58,880
texas

1673
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:01,040
and i think they all have a little

1674
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:03,040
corner of the yard that could be turned

1675
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:04,960
into a food factory

1676
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:07,040
as i mentioned earlier same with parents

1677
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,400
houses

1678
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,480
i've got friends who recently went back

1679
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:12,400
home to see their aging parents and

1680
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:13,760
spent most of the time

1681
01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:16,079
cutting the grass cleaning up old wood

1682
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:18,559
piles and stuff like that

1683
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:21,119
so there are more opportunities than one

1684
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,720
might think

1685
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:25,040
plus i love how jim puts things in

1686
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:26,559
economic terms

1687
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:30,000
even the indoor micro greens this is how

1688
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:31,119
much it costs

1689
01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:32,880
this is how much it can yield and this

1690
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,200
is how much you can sell them for and

1691
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:37,760
it just all works to really break the

1692
01:00:41,589 --> 01:00:39,760
scarcity spell

1693
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:41,599
so there is a lot that can be done and

1694
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,200
rarely does a thc

1695
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:45,839
show up that has such a wide range of

1696
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:48,400
follow-up possibilities

1697
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,720
you could just get a design from jim

1698
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:52,960
which is great in and of itself

1699
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:54,640
maybe you have some space and you just

1700
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:56,480
want to make sure it's optimized for

1701
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:57,599
this kind of thing well

1702
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:59,680
you can purchase a design plan with

1703
01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:00,880
their expertise

1704
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:03,920
and then do the work yourself or you can

1705
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:05,920
take the easy road and have them do the

1706
01:01:08,829 --> 01:01:06,720
full install

1707
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:08,839
and get yourself a free fruit tree to

1708
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,680
boot or you could write gym and see if

1709
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:13,680
you can actually get involved in

1710
01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:15,760
being what sounds a lot like a

1711
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:17,839
franchisee or a satellite

1712
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:20,240
employee that helps their company spread

1713
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:22,000
around the country

1714
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,599
or if you're really going to go all in

1715
01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:25,119
on this you could buy a house in the

1716
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:27,200
permaculture paradise he's setting up in

1717
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,480
florida

1718
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,720
what a serious range of options and

1719
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:31,760
opportunities but

1720
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,520
tell him you come by way of thc anyway

1721
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:37,359
and maybe he'll throw you an extra bone

1722
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:38,720
or something but

1723
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:41,280
i'm inspired by what jim is doing and

1724
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:42,880
really wanted to help him spread the

1725
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:43,839
word

1726
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:46,079
i was a bit nervous about truly filling

1727
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:47,760
up the two-hour show with such a

1728
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:51,040
specific niche topic but we did it

1729
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:52,960
and it's important enough that i just

1730
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:55,680
wanted to do it anyway

1731
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:57,920
it's just such a good point that every

1732
01:02:02,470 --> 01:02:00,720
square foot of lawn or wasted space that

1733
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:02,480
we can inspire people to turn

1734
01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:05,200
into a food forest or edible landscape

1735
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:08,400
has such a range of stacked benefits

1736
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:10,480
better homesteading skills for people

1737
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:13,200
who engage with it better use of space

1738
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:16,799
an erosion of our system dependence

1739
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:19,039
an erosion of corporate gmo crop

1740
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:20,960
producers market share

1741
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:23,440
better health through healthier diet and

1742
01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:24,000
in turn

1743
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:26,960
erosion of big pharma's profits this

1744
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:29,280
sounds like a big part of how we win

1745
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:31,440
complex problems with really simple

1746
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:32,319
solutions as

1747
01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:34,960
jim pointed out but i know jim would

1748
01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:36,640
love to hear from you guys and helping

1749
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:38,240
to widen this network

1750
01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:40,960
is a beautiful thing i know our sound

1751
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:42,400
quality wasn't the best

1752
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,720
again and i think i just need to be a

1753
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:46,720
bit more proactive in communicating

1754
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:48,960
beforehand what i need to make sure that

1755
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:51,359
we have the best sound quality

1756
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,480
historically i've just assumed and left

1757
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:56,400
it up to chance but lately that is not

1758
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,640
working all that well

1759
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,319
i think this last year has really

1760
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:03,119
conditioned people to think in terms of

1761
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:06,240
zoom to just open up the laptop no

1762
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:07,760
headphones needed and

1763
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:10,000
go for it but that is not the best

1764
01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:12,079
protocol in my case and i'm going to

1765
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:13,280
communicate what i need

1766
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,079
a bit better going forward so don't

1767
01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:18,000
think i haven't noticed but a huge

1768
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:20,240
thanks to our editor justin who took two

1769
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:21,520
passes on this one

1770
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:24,000
to make it as good as he could i've

1771
01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:25,839
already talked to randall carlson about

1772
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:26,079
an

1773
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:27,520
optimum setup for the one we're

1774
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:30,000
recording tomorrow so we should be good

1775
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:32,400
there and that's what i'm gonna go get

1776
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:33,359
ready for now

1777
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:35,920
so i hope you enjoyed what you heard and

1778
01:03:39,589 --> 01:03:38,240
all the offerings on the thc table for

1779
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:39,599
june

1780
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:41,920
food forests automatic writing with

1781
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:43,039
michael sandler

1782
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:45,520
orgasmic birth and vaccine concerns with

1783
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,359
dr northrup

1784
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:49,760
angelic sailors with pierre sabacc and

1785
01:03:52,710 --> 01:03:52,079
sub personalities and entity attachment

1786
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:52,720
with dr

1787
01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:55,920
tom zinzer as wild and diverse as ever

1788
01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:57,760
if you liked those shows and only heard

1789
01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:00,079
the first hour you're missing a lot

1790
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:01,760
you already seem to like the show why

1791
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:04,160
not hop into thg plus for eight dollars

1792
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:06,319
a month and just try me out

1793
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:08,240
it keeps me charged up and keeps the

1794
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:10,480
passion going plus you get more

1795
01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:13,280
show in today's second hour we talked

1796
01:04:17,589 --> 01:04:14,240
about the seven

1797
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:17,599
layers of a food forest food fences 12

1798
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:20,559
growable antiviral herbs backwards

1799
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,559
american culture

1800
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:24,640
more examples of the magic and

1801
01:04:30,789 --> 01:04:27,039
intelligence of plants and trees

1802
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:30,799
available space and yield calculations

1803
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:33,920
duct deficiencies the miraculous

1804
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:36,799
meringue tree probably my favorite part

1805
01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:37,200
and

1806
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:39,520
fun little stuff like improving your sex

1807
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:42,160
life with plants

1808
01:04:47,109 --> 01:04:44,160
preying on insecurities getting people

1809
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,119
to sign up in the way that works best

1810
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,200
but really we tip waiters eight bucks

1811
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:51,440
for bringing us a sandwich and a beer

1812
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:53,119
maybe you wouldn't mind tipping me for

1813
01:04:57,309 --> 01:04:55,280
this service and getting twice as much

1814
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:57,319
of it at the same time the

1815
01:05:01,750 --> 01:04:58,799
highersidechats.com

1816
01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:01,760
or click the top link in the show notes

1817
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:02,319
july

1818
01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:04,559
also looks really action-packed and

1819
01:05:07,829 --> 01:05:05,760
diverse so

1820
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:07,839
come on in the water's fine but thanks

1821
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:08,799
for listening

1822
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:11,280
food forest abundance for all i've done

1823
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,319
my part

1824
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:13,839
your move death promoters

1825
01:05:19,029 --> 01:05:16,160
self-sufficiency eroders and agents of

1826
01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:19,039
the suburban lawn mine virus

1827
01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:32,150
stuff that makes you fat

1828
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:36,280
yeah it's a weak and sickly people make

1829
01:05:50,420 --> 01:05:37,359
[Applause]

1830
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:50,430
don't tell me don't tell me

1831
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:04,830
that's right

1832
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:13,589
got an addiction to the digital

1833
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:17,680
technology and every now and then i try

1834
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:18,400
to quit

1835
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:21,599
and leave it be but it's too hard to

1836
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:22,079
turn

1837
01:06:36,070 --> 01:06:42,710
[Music]

1838
01:06:42,720 --> 01:07:06,069
i don't have to face that's right

1839
01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:14,440
don't tell me you're right

1840
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:24,079
[Music]